Trip report, October FBI conference
In October I attended an FBI conference, as part of my work to try to keep Tor on good relations with law enforcement. My first goal is to remind them of all the good uses of Tor, so if they ever find themselves lobbying to outlaw anonymity online, they'll understand what they're giving up. The second goal is to make sure they understand what Tor is and how it works, so if they encounter it in their investigations they'll hassle our exit relay operators less. (Here's a great way that one FBI person explained it to me: "I've got 10 leads, and 48 hours before this case doesn't matter anymore. If you can help me understand which leads *not* to follow, I can do my job better.") My third goal is to help them be able to use Tor correctly for their own jobs — remember that diversity of users is part of what makes Tor safe for everybody to use.
Overall, we've been doing a pretty good job at teaching US-based law enforcement about Tor. At the end of the conference, one of the FBI agents took me aside and asked "surely you have *some* sort of way of tracking your users?" When I pointed at various of his FBI colleagues in the room who had told me they use Tor every day for their work, and asked if he'd be comfortable if we had a way of tracing *them*, I think he got it.
I met a nice man from the DEA who worked on the "Farmer's Market" bust. This was in the news a lot back in April, where apparently some people were selling drugs online, and using a Tor hidden service for their website. At the time I thought the news stories could be summarized simply as "idiot drug sellers accept paypal payments, get busted." It turns out they were pretty smart about how to accept paypal payments — they just had random Americans receive the paypal payments, take a cut, and then turn them into a Panama-based digital currency, and the Panama company didn't want to help trace where the money went. The better summary for the news stories should actually have been "idiot drug sellers use hushmail, get busted." Way before they switched to a Tor hidden service, the two main people used Hushmail to communicate. After a subpoena (and apparently a lot of patience since Canada still isn't quite the same as the US), Hushmail rolled over and gave up copies of all the emails. Many more details here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/89690597/Willemsindictment-Filed-045
I should still note that Tor doesn't introduce any magic new silver bullet that causes criminals to be uncatchable when before they weren't. The Farmer's Market people ran their webserver in some other foreign country before they switched to a Tor hidden service, and just the fact that the country didn't want to cooperate in busting them was enough to make that a dead end. Jurisdictional arbitrage is alive and well in the world.
I don't believe your simple
I don't believe your simple analysis.
The people who are addicted are slaves of their substance. This means that no matter what the law says, they will do what their master commands them to do.
This is the problem. Even if drugs are legalized, these people will still be slaves, and they will never take responsibility for their own actions.
The war on drugs is a war on slavery. Unfortunately, it creates prison slaves instead.
Sure we can legalize all actions taken by slaves of substances, but they will still cause immense suffering for the people around them. There is no freedom in drugs. There is no freedom in legalization.
The list of non addictive
The list of non addictive illegal drugs is enormously larger than the list of addictive illegal drugs. Almost no psychedelics are addictive. Even addictive drugs do not cause every user to be an addict. I smoked meth, never got addicted, never used it more than a dozen times. I smoked crack once and hated it. I sniffed and smoked heroin over an entire week and then never used it again. The war on drugs is a war on the people, plain and simple. It is a war with the purpose of creating slaves to create profits for the friends of our political masters.
Nice strawman by the way, nobody said to legalize all actions taken by drug users. The overwhelming majority of suffering I have seen caused by drugs, as someone heavily involved in drug culture for almost half of my life, is the suffering caused by the war on drugs. Also you call my analysis simple but you lump all drugs into the group 'drugs'. Don't you comprehend the vast difference between substances? Probably not because it is obvious you are one of the brainwashed people. You probably learned everything you know about drugs from D.A.R.E and other government propaganda. Hell, chances are you work for the government or have close family working for the government.
I really should feel sorry for you but honestly I have nothing but hatred for people like you. I hope that one day you can suffer just like you make us suffer today.
Some of you talk about our
Some of you talk about our (drug users) ability to democratically influence the country so it is okay that we are treated like sub-human animals because of this. I wonder, how do you people who are so obsessed with the laws of a democracy justify the absolute unconstitutionality of the war on drugs? Why is it that I am promised by the constitution that the government will not make laws favoring religions, yet I am banned from using Mescaline while Native Americans of certain religious backgrounds are given religious exceptions? Why am I banned from possessing DMT, a substance that occurs naturally in my brain, while members of the Church of Santo Daime are are given religious exception to this law? Why is it that youth under 21 are strictly banned from consumption of any alcohol, and yet the Catholic children are given exceptions for their communion?
Why is it that these religious exceptions to the controlled substance act exist, yet I am banned from using LSD, a drug that I use frequently and which provides me with spiritual experiences the likes of which I will never obtain from a church? Is my method of obtaining spiritual enlightenment less valid than taking Mescaline or DMT, which I am banned from doing regardless as I am not a member of the appropriate church to be given an exception to the law?
For that matter, why is it that when they prohibited alcohol it entailed a change to the constitution yet when they banned thousands of other recreational drugs no such change was required?
Oh and are we allowed to democratically change the laws? Not those of us who have been convicted of felonies resulting from the war on drugs! Additionally they make it very difficult for us to gain meaningful employment, or to obtain funding for higher education. As I said before, they treat us as subhuman animals. So spare me your talk of democracy. How can there even be a democracy here when the established powers pump out propaganda through every available channel, they falsify "scientific" studies to paint a picture in common perception that is inconsistent with reality.
My favorite analogy for what is happening is this; image two small and isolated populations of say thirty people each. In one of the populations, there is no illusion of freedom for the people, a small subset of them violently dictate the rules to the others. In the second population, the people are allowed to vote on the issues. Now imagine that there is some substance, I will use DHMO as the name of the substance. In the first population the powers desire to ban this and so they say that it is banned and will use violence against those who still come to possess or consume it. In the second population they put it to a vote, but the powers first mandate that at the schools they teach that it is a highly dangerous substance. Through the media they say that it is a highly dangerous substance, they give their official opinions that it is a highly dangerous substance as well. Now they allow the people to vote on the matter, people who have never before even heard of the substance.
Now the second population may have the illusion of being free, but in reality they are just as controlled as the first population. You cannot have a true democracy when the channels through which information flows are controlled by a select few! This is exactly what has happened with drugs. They have made up lies about drugs but disguised them as real science, they teach at the schools that drugs are horrible things, they spread through the media that drugs are horrible things. And then you say that we have a democracy because we can vote to say they are not? It is a facade of a democracy, it is only ostensibly a democracy! The masses are too ignorant and they are kept from the truth and they are indoctrinated to the goals of the powers, how is that freedom or democracy? It is merely a disguised form of totalitarianism!
I have been a drug user since I was a young teenager, I have tried every drug you can think of and many more. I still find that I am more intelligent than most who do not use drugs! Additionally, I am not a criminal, I do not steal from people I do not physically attack people, I do not put a burden upon society. And yet this society has made me into a criminal. They have made my friends into criminals, and they treat us as such. They are vicious animals, we are innocent people who merely desire to consume recreational substances! Where is the victim I have created? I am not a victim to myself, if such a thing could even be possible. I have harmed nobody, and yet these paramilitary troops try to find me to throw me into a cell maintained by a private prison industry that will be paid to hold me! And these paramilitary troops and private prisons spend their money funding these politicians and organizations that say they must spend more money to put more people like me into prisons, on the pretense that they are either "bringing justice to criminals" or "helping drug addicts", depending on their political affiliation. They force us to go to rehabilitation facilities staffed by ignorant social scientists who have only been taught to regurgitate propaganda, they force us to attend pseudo-support groups which more often than not are merely religious indoctrination groups (which is unconstitutional), they put us on probation and parole, etc. They are just using us as a fucking commodity, there is no difference between this and slavery! We are enslaved for their profits, not for ANYTHING else, and the penalties of their evil behavior are the deaths of thousands, the spread of disease, the spread of crime from street level gangs to cartels and the funding of terrorism! It is absolutely abhorrent, it is despicable and it is purely evil.
A very good comment. While
A very good comment. While I don't believe in legalization, I think a lot of the points you make are valid.
However, the prison system, the ability to not get a decent job, the feeling of being treated like an animal. Those things are not a direct consequence of banning drugs.
To see this, look to other nations where there are bans but where the war on drugs is done differently.
Your two-groups example isn't valid either. Every adult in the US can make up their own mind, and my understanding is that so many people use drugs in the US that every adult has some knowledge of this, and they are not "indoctrinated". Also, most adults get their information from the Internet, so it is not like there is a monopoly on information today. You are free to argue your case.
So you think if a generation
So you think if a generation of kids was raised going to school and learning the real truth about drugs, that we would still have just as many people in favor of prohibition today, because the D.E.A. could argue their 'case' on the internet? No way. The two groups argument is totally valid. People go through their entire lives being told lies by authority figures. I am not free to teach the truth about drugs at public schools. The government has nearly a monopoly on exposing children to information, which is clearly an extremely valuable advantage (just look at religion, kids can be made life long followers but if they only hear about religion as adults they will almost never buy into it). The media always reports on the crimes of junkies but that is cherry picking. They never report about the person who took LSD and had a religious experience and no bad effects. You are totally wrong in thinking that the average adult in the USA has not been indoctrinated into the war on drugs.
Fact of the matter is that the war on drugs is a massive failure. Fact of the matter is that nobody in their right mind would spend money on the war on drugs if they knew the truth about drugs. People still think that LSD causes chromosome damage (disproven), that LSD causes mental illness (it can trigger latent mental illness in those predisposed, but it does NOT cause mental illness), that LSD will fry peoples brains (lol, it is one of the safest drugs known to man), that LSD will make people think they can fly and jump off buildings, that marijuana causes men to become impotent, that mushrooms cause your brain to bleed, etc. I love how ketamine and GHB are called date rape drugs but alcohol of course isn't, even though all of those drugs are recreational with sedative and dissociative effects. People have no god damn clue about what recreational drugs really do or the effects they really have. They are voting against legalization thinking that they are voting against poison being flooded into their communities, this belies a complete lack of real education regarding drugs. The only place you can even get a real education about drugs is on the internet, but the vast majority of people are getting their education about drugs from the media, from the schools and from the government. There is so much misinformation and propaganda out there that it is literally a sea of bullshit with only specks of truth hidden away in it. Average people don't care enough about drugs to separate the fact from the fiction, and they are going to believe anything they hear on the news or anything the government says.
welcome to the world dude
welcome to the world dude
The online drug scene is
The online drug scene is going to change the world and we don't give a shit about what our corrupt societies want and the all the police in the world are not going to stop us.
where has the silk road gone?
where has the silk road gone?
what has happened to the
what has happened to the silk road site?